The Future of NTG and Why the traffic is so low

[Enchantress 1,409]

Hi
Many of you may not know me and for good reason, I am not here to talk bad about NTG, its the only cracking forum I ever want to stick with, even though I am less active than I have ever been.
But it is with great pain to see NTG slowly dying due to the fact that Google, yes Google the big and mighty search engine which controls everything and decides what websites are allowed to be seen by the world and what websites aren't, the biggest form of dictatorship the world has ever seen and one every website owner must bow before if they want organic traffic.
To get to the point, NTG has been banned from Google and this means thousands of people out there are going to other cracking forums.
You cannot search for nethingoez and find a link to nethingoez...
If you search for openbullet or any other keyword related to cracking, NTG is no where to be seen meaning other cracking sites steals this traffic which is rightfully nethingoez, since we are if not the oldest cracking forum still alive, at least we are one of them and certainly older than many of the sites we usually find on google.
If we aren't able to convince Google to unban/unpenalize us we are not gonna see a rise in traffic and a site that flourish.

This makes be wonder and beg the question.
Should nethingoez start over from scratch with a new name, new users, new  topics(some of the old topics could be copied to the new site of course), new content and so on and so forth.
I know this is a crazy question, but at least I have the guts to ask, I would not want NTG to die due to the fact that every potential google search is going to every cracking site except for NTG.

Regards
Enchantress, Moonshine, Galactus.

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[DareDevil 5,243]

@Bonez This is a valid question.

[Guest]

@Enchantress This is exactly what I have always wondered and tried umpteen times on Google to see if it manages to redirect to NTG and it never happened. This must be happening with many of our old users as well who are not able to connect back. This is one of the main reason for which I encouraged @Bonez to let our Discord spread a little so we at least keep getting members from an alternative source. But that is not going to be enough to get us back the kind of activity that we have had in the past.

As you mentioned, we seem to have only two choices in front of us, either we find a way to convince Google to unban us and allow our domain to be listed again or we'll have to see if with a slight tweak in our domain, if its at all technically feasible to get the dice rolling for us.

But its time that we should make one choice out of the awesome people holding the two mighty ranks mentioned below is all we can look forward to for a brighter future of NTG and I hope, we will sustain like we have been for the past 11 years.

@Teh Owner @The Owner

[Bonez 6,388]

7 hours ago, Enchantress said:

I know this is a crazy question, but at least I have the guts to ask

And I applaud you.

What has been the problem for the longest time is bad SEO work.

We had a guy working on it for months but the work was in vain as it didn't render any higher results in search engines.

I am actively Searching for someone who can work with SEO to bring the activity level up in this bitch. But it ain't easy to find the competence.

If ANYONE know a true SEO-manager/dev - PLEASE forward them to me, it will be a paid work. IF THE PERSON IS A PRO.

[ALPHAN0VA 557]

- If ANYONE know a true SEO-manager/dev - PLEASE forward them to me, it will be a paid work. (When I see some results) -

... and it was the biggest mistake.

No one goo SEO willn't start working with a site for MAYBE GET PAID IF RESULT GET'S SEE nice.

Because it's high risk of waste of time for nothing, because upgrading a site to high position is long and non-easy work,

who will agree seriously work for a long-time to MAYBE receive something or even NOTHING?   No1.

The good SEO needs to be paid from the first day, because he have a much more higher risk, than site's owner.

You willn't find ever 'a good SEO' unless you will do a big payment from the first day.

 

AN

[Bonez 6,388]

2 hours ago, ALPHAN0VA said:

The good SEO needs to be paid from the first day, because he have a much more higher risk, than site's owner.

So tell me who I shall pay then? I got money

[ALPHAN0VA 557]

It depends from your current ttarget, what is it?

a) Upgrade your SEO or

b) Google whitelisting (very expensive) or

c) Bypass Google limitation by SEO tricks (will require a new domain)

[Guest]

@ALPHAN0VA You're starting to demagogue. Can you be specific about whether you know a good specialist in this field or not?

[ALPHAN0VA 557]

There are different SEO specs, and they do various price.

Need to know exactly what needs, no one will come to waste time for discussions of simple details (and waiting for a log time to 'catch' owners to be online)  while they can do work at the same time with getting stable 'every-minute' profit.

If discussing details is 'demagogue' now, I'm sorry you can delete my messages from this thread and I'll stay away from it in next.

[Guest]

8 hours ago, ALPHAN0VA said:

 

If discussing details is 'demagogue' now, I'm sorry you can delete my messages from this thread and I'll stay away from it in next.

You never answered the question. Discussing the details only makes sense if you really help in any way. And if you just argue out loud it is meaningless.

[Tito 3,401]

@Enchantress when you were in staff you mention you are available to do seo work free of cost is that offer still open? btw now even we pay to our new seo manager

[Enchantress 1,409]

@Bonez , @JunooN , @Illusive-Man , @ALPHAN0VA

Without googles permission we are not gonna get back on google.
No SEO guru or SEO professional can help you get back on google, only google can, so please dont throw money away for nothing.
The only possibilities are!
A) Do nothing
B) Get unbanned by google
C) Start from scratch with entirely new name and new forum.

We cannot do any "Tricks" or smart solutions to circumvent googles robots and security, this would just mean we would face this problem in a few months again and remake this topic.
So a decision needs to be made and my first idea would be to contact google and ask them(BEG THEM) to unban us and that we would accept everything they tell us, then work from that.
If they dont want to help us out in any way, start from scratch.

[Enchantress 1,409]

1 minute ago, Tito said:

@Enchantress when you were in staff you mention you are available to do seo work free of cost is that offer still open? btw now even we pay to our new seo manager

I would be happy to do it for free if I had the time, but any kind of SEO work would be useless since we are banned from google.
I can try to get in contact with Google and see what they have to say, thats all we can do for now my friend.

[Enchantress 1,409]

@Bonez

I will contact you on discord, I may need access to the gmail account which has connections to NTG to be able to see what problems there are.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Enchantress said:

I would be happy to do it for free if I had the time, but any kind of SEO work would be useless since we are banned from google.
I can try to get in contact with Google and see what they have to say, thats all we can do for now my friend.

If that's so then someone must have cashed in by offering there services on something which was going nowhere. I would first take the refund in this case for whosoever have worked for the sake of working without intending to cause any effect.

[Enchantress 1,409]

1 minute ago, JunooN said:

If that's so then someone must have cashed in by offering there services on something which was going nowhere. I would first take the refund in this case for whosoever have worked for the sake of working without intending to cause any effect.

Depends on how long we have been penalized, but I think it has been going on for months!
So if you had a guy getting paid to do SEO work within the last 2-4 months I'd say you got screwed, he should have told you what I am saying.
Google penalize/ban websites from google due to a number of reasons.

Check this out:
https://neilpatel.com/blog/penalized-by-google/
 

[_Cabal_ 2,886]

Think first thing is first. As others have said knowing the specific reason we are getting penalized is the first step. Can we do something about it, if not we can narrow the options we have left.

[Guest]

@Enchantress I think you're being dramatic. CI, too, as I understand were in a similar situation and they just changed the domain and moved the backup data to 3 new addresses. And they are now working as before. But for all these manipulations and to promote the site in search engines, we need a good coder.

[chubika 532]

Could start over. delete anything sentry mba related as hardly anyone uses it anymore unless it's a simple site. keep "NTG" as a log on the site to remind people who the site use to be.

[Supy 375]

well its hard to rank google when every topic is registration only and so of course you wont rank for keywords google can't see

 

need a blog to go with the forum and have articles and shit

but  i can talk till im blue in the face but nobody listens

[Supy 375]

but what you say is bs because we are in the results here

 

[Supy 375]

As you can see, it would be near impossible to rank for "FORUMS" but, the whole site of NTG contains ONLY this in the ir H1 taG. 

 

 

Now call me crazy but, the h1 tag is very important in ON PAGE SEO. IT IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO RANK FOR A KEYWORD AND NOT HAVE IT IN H1 ON YOUR SITE. 

SO OUR ONLY FUCKING H1 TAG IS "FORUMS"

YOU KNOW HOW POPULAR THIS KEYWORD IS. RANKING FOR THE WORD FORUMS IS NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE OF COMPETITION. 

SO EVEN IF THE KEYWORDS LOOK GOOD, THE H1 TAG OF FORUMS IS NOT GOING TO DO SHIT

AMONG OTHER THINGS THAT ARE FUCKING SIMPLE

THERE ARE OTHER FACTORS THAT DETERMINE GOOGLE POSITION, BUT ON PAGE SEO IS THE MOST IMPORTANT AND LONG TERM LINK BUILDING AND SOCIAL MEDIA. 

 

OH WAIT I FORGOT, I DON'T KNOW SHIT NEVERMIND

 

@Bonez @Tito @all

Edited May 22 by Supy

[Supy 375]

LASTLY, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THE LAST ONE WHO DID SEO FOR THIS SITE OBVIOUSLY DOESN'T KNOW THEIR ASS FROM A HOLE IN THE GROUND. 

NOT TO MENTION IW AS GOING TO HELP FOR FREE BUT I'M NOT PROFESSIONAL

 

I TELL YOU ONE THING I CAN GUARANTEE I COULD RANK THIS SITE ON GOOGLE ABOVE CRACKING ITALY. ALL FOR FREE

IT MAKES ME ALMOST WANT TO START A BLOG REALLY QUICK AND RANK #1 FOR CRACKING FORUMS AND NETHINGOEZ.

 

 

it's not that complicated you guys are over thinking it

[shadowme 0]

it is fact the seo that is the problem,  i have helped a few cracking forums get up and on google and the other search engines,  but it takes time, like anything else...  it doesn't happen over-night.   the right meta keywords, are the most important, and should be maintained to adjust to the new searches that are being searched in the search engines.   

will help as much as i can with the capabilities i have access to .

Edited May 22 by shadowme

[Supy 375]

19 hours ago, shadowme said:

it is fact the seo that is the problem,  i have helped a few cracking forums get up and on google and the other search engines,  but it takes time, like anything else...  it doesn't happen over-night.   the right meta keywords, are the most important, and should be maintained to adjust to the new searches that are being searched in the search engines.   

will help as much as i can with the capabilities i have access to .

Not only KEYWORDS, but you have to have CONTENT, along with YOUR KEYWORDS and LONGTAIL VERSIONS you want to rank for. 

for exaMPLE

cracking tutorials

openbullet tutorials

how to make config openbullet

openbullet making a config 

open bullet config tutorial

ect ect ect

you need KEYWORDS, in <b> <h1> and other variations as a certain % in the content. but google has to be able to find the content. thats why a blog page, which links to forum on the main page but has articles in it, with keywords, pictures, etc. GOOD CONTENT AND IT HAS TO BE FRESH.

 

then you start working on building links carefully. and social media

 

its simple really its not that hard you just  don't try to rank for really hard keywords.

 

 

I can do it i know i can with the help of the other staff but for whatever reason the staff maybe has doubts.

 

i tell you one thing, you can't fuck nothing up its about as it can't get much worse.